Pauli matrices and Gell-Mann matrices

The Pauli matrices are 2×2 matrices introduced in the 1920s for the purpose of describing the spin of electrons. They were later used in other contexts, for example the description of weak isospin to distinguish electrons from neutrinos, and up quarks from down quarks. The Gell-Mann matrices are 3×3 matrices introduced in the 1960s for the purpose of bringing order to the particle zoo, specifically for describing the baryon octet and the meson octet (or nonet). They were later used in other contexts, for example for the description of colours and gluons in the theory of quantum chromodynamics (QCD).

There is supposed to be an analogy between the 2×2 case and the 3×3 case, as they are both sets of traceless Hermitian matrices, and so they generate the Lie algebras su(2) and su(3) respectively. (Or, if you’re a mathematician instead of a physicist, you multiply them by i first to make them anti-Hermitian, but this is just a confusing convention, which gets in the way of communication, rather than a fundamental difference.) This is true, so far as it goes. But it only allows you to treat the continuous parts of the theory analogously, using the Lie groups SU(2) and SU(3). It does not allow you to treat the discrete parts of the theory analogously, because the Pauli matrices generate a finite symmetry group, but the Gell-Mann matrices do not.

This is a fundamental difference, and is a very serious problem. So I would like to tell you how to solve this problem, and put the finite symmetry group into the Gell-Mann matrices where it belongs. First, let’s go back to the Pauli matrices, and let’s use the mathematicians’ anti-Hermitian matrices, because it’s much easier that way. The three anti-Hermitian Pauli matrices generate the quaternion group Q_8 of order 8. This group contains two scalar matrices +1 and -1, and three pairs +i/-i, +j/-j and +k/-k. One of these pairs consists of diagonal matrices that distinguish spin up from spin down, and the other pairs swap spin up with spin down. Or in the weak isospin case, you distinguish electrons from neutrinos with one pair, and swap them (with the weak force) using the other pairs.

What is important to realise is that the discrete symmetries are physically important. You cannot mix an electron with a neutrino, they are fundamentally different distinct objects, and there is no continuous symmetry that converts one to the other. So you must use the Pauli matrices as discrete symmetries, not as generators for the continuous group SU(2). The same is true for Gell-Mann matrices, because the proton, neutron, lambda baryon, three sigma baryons and two xi baryons are eight distinct particles, not an 8-dimensional continuum of particles. So we have to have a finite group generated by Gell-Mann matrices, not just a Lie algebra and a Lie group. It so happens that mathematicians know how to do this, although physicists apparently do not. So listen up, you physicists, and you will learn something both interesting and useful.

The 3×3 analogue of the quaternion group (anti-Hermitian Pauli matrices) of order 8=2x2x2 is a group of order 27=3x3x3, containing scalars of order 3, plus 6 other diagonal matrices (or 2, if you ignore the scalar multiplications), and 18 off-diagonal matrices (or 6, if you ignore the scalars. You can just write them down, using say v and w as the two primitive cube roots of 1 (that is, exp(2\pi i/3) and exp(4\pi i/3)), and putting one entry 1,v or w in each row and column, with 0 for the other six entries, and ensuring that the determinant is +1. I won’t do the exercise for you, you should do it yourself. Mathematics is easy, but it is not a spectator sport.

So there you have it, the Gell-Mann matrices done properly. But what do you notice? I’ve given you 27 matrices, Gell-Mann only gave you 8. Well, he throws away the scalars (additively), so there are 24 non-scalar matrices. And then he throws away the scalars again (multiplicatively), to reduce to 8. But what does it mean to throw away the multiplicative scalars? It means, reducing from the Lie group SU(3) to its quotient PSU(3) = SU(3)/Z_3. Can this really be true? Is the gauge group of the strong force really PSU(3), and not SU(3)? How could we tell? A mathematician can tell the difference easily, but I am rather afraid that many physicists cannot, because they do not distinguish between the Lie groups (where the difference appears) and the Lie algebras (where there is no difference.

In other words, a physicist cannot tell that I have actually done anything at all. So a physicist cannot complain that I have broken their Standard Model, because I haven’t done anything to it as far as they can see. But a mathematician can see that I have made a huge difference, and I have turned the Gell-Mann matrices from a real Lie algebra into a finite group. I have turned chalk into cheese, and I have turned coloured water into flavoured wine. Let the party begin.

71 Responses to “Pauli matrices and Gell-Mann matrices”

  1. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    You weren’t expecting a cheese and wine party, were you? Life (and physics) is full of surprises.

  2. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    It’s the three generations of wine that I’m particularly looking forward to…although I’m also quite keen to taste the three generations of cheese. The older the better, I would say, having reached the third generation myself.

  3. Nige Cook Says:

    “The 3×3 analogue of the quaternion group (anti-Hermitian Pauli matrices) of order 8=2x2x2 is a group of order 27=3x3x3, containing scalars of order 3, plus 6 other diagonal matrices (or 2, if you ignore the scalar multiplications), and 18 off-diagonal matrices (or 6, if you ignore the scalars. You can just write them down, using say v and w as the two primitive cube roots of 1 (that is, exp(2\pi i/3) and exp(4\pi i/3)), and putting one entry 1,v or w in each row and column, with 0 for the other six entries, and ensuring that the determinant is +1. I won’t do the exercise for you, you should do it yourself. Mathematics is easy, but it is not a spectator sport.”

    When writing, please assume the lowest common denominator (dumb readers) and embed diagrams. Then nobody has any excuse to ignore you (other than plain bigotry). Also, some readers who like to see mathematical patterns in matrices because of autism will be denied that. (E.g., I’m trying to look after an elderly relative, compile two books on different subjects, etc.) However, if you’re just using your blog as a public blackboard, then do what you will.

    • Robert A. Wilson Says:

      You’re right of course. I’m being lazy. But no-one’s paying me for this, so I reserve the right to be lazy. I guess I’ll put the matrices in a pdf so people can see them, but it’ll take a bit longer than just writing half a dozen paragraphs of text.

  4. Lars Says:

    Proof by Matrix

    The proof is in the matrices
    It isn’t in the wine and cheese
    So give examples, pretty please
    The blogging dummies to appease

    Though wine and cheese are very nice
    Without the matrix, won’t suffice
    So show your work and pay the price
    Or sew confusion otherwise

  5. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    If I’ve done this right, the matrices should be at https://robwilson1.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/pgm-2.pdf. Enjoy.

  6. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    When I said that a physicist cannot tell that I have done anything at all, I think I might have explained why the arXiv rejects many of my papers, on the (alleged) grounds that they are not `substantive research’. The things that I do in some of these papers are so fundamental that they are beneath the dignity of `leading physicists’ to even notice. The fact that I sometimes even remove the ground they are walking on passes them by. The reason they don’t notice is because they think they can fly.

    • Lars Says:

      The Exponents of Exponents

      Adding through subtraction
      Is very hard to see
      For multiplying faction
      With exponential glee

      • Robert A. Wilson Says:

        Surely “multiplying fractions” to rhyme with “subtractions”?

      • Robert A. Wilson Says:

        “Less is more”

        Adding through subtraction
        Is very hard to do
        Only a tiny fraction
        Can see the way through.

      • Lars Says:

        Yes, fraction would work too, but of course, faction refers to that group (of people) who are often the gatekeepers at journals and who love multiplication of extraneous “stuff”(particles, strings, matter, energy, assumptions, etc)

        But, in fact, I am not wedded to “faction” and would gladly give it up for a little wine and cheese

    • Robert A. Wilson Says:

      Leading physicists
      Are lost in the Swampland
      But Nature insists
      It’s Not-even-wrong-land

      No ground to walk on –
      It passes them by.
      No reason to talk on –
      They think they can fly.

  7. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    “More or less” – a Limerick

    Multiplication through division
    Is always greeted by derision.
    They will not stoop
    To a finite group
    To make a colour decision.

  8. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    “The secret of happiness”
    (or Einstein’s Dream)

    Exponential growth of theory
    Makes a mathematician weary.
    Simplification,
    and unification,
    Make a mathematician cheery.

  9. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    Mathematicians are very discreet,
    They only ever look at their feet.
    Look in their eyes,
    you’ll get a surprise:
    Left and right, they’re discrete!

  10. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    The impossibility of unifying the forces in the Standard Model is now completely clear to me. The Pauli matrices generate U(2) over the field of order 9. The Gell-Mann matrices (as corrected above) generate SU(3) over the field of order 4. You cannot unify matrix groups over fields of different characteristics (3 and 2 respectively). Still less can you do this if you ignore the characteristics and set them all to zero, as the Standard Model does.

  11. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    The group U(3,F_4) of all 3×3 unitary matrices over the field of order 4 has order 648. It has a normal subgroup of order 27, consisting of the revised Gell-Mann matrices. The quotient group therefore has order 24, and turns out to be isomorphic to the binary tetrahedral group, which I have already used to describe the electroweak forces. Hence this group is sufficient for a complete electro-weak-strong unification. But the isomorphism that converts the 2×2 Pauli matrices into 3×3 unitary matrices is far from obvious. This is the place where the mixing happens, and is the place that physicists need to look at.

    • Robert A. Wilson Says:

      It is more or less obvious that the 3-dimensional unitary representation restricts to the quaternion group (mathematicians’ Pauli matrices) as a scalar plus a spinor, but when we extend to the binary tetrahedral group we distinguish three scalars (one real and two complex conjugates) and three spinors (one Hamiltonian and two complex conjugate Weyl spinors). The real scalar pairs up with one of the Weyl spinors, while the complex scalars pair up with the other Weyl spinor and the Hamilton spinor. There’s a chirality there, for sure!

      • Robert A. Wilson Says:

        The way I’ve analysed the binary tetrahedral group, the real scalar (charge) pairs up with the Standard Model left-handed Weyl spinor, whereas the complex scalar (mass) pairs up with the Standard Model right-handed Weyl spinor, *and* the Hamilton spinor, identified with the Standard Model left-handed Weyl spinor. So that’s how the SM deals with chirality, but in doing so it is making the classic mistake that I pointed out years ago, of confusing a complex spinor with a quaternionic spinor.

      • Robert A. Wilson Says:

        I suppose we could say there are three types of spinors: left-handed, right-handed and Woit-handed. Which one is which is up to you to decide, but the SM confuses two of them. I think it confuses Woit-handed with left-handed, but that depends on your definition. To put it another way, its left hand doesn’t know what its other left hand is doing.

      • Robert A. Wilson Says:

        Yes, I like that: the SM has three spinors, one right-handed (weak singlet) and two left-handed (weak doublet). The problem as normally understood is that the left hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing. The problem as I understand it is that the left hand (electron) doesn’t know what the other left hand (neutrino) is doing. I know what the other left hand is doing – it is “doing” gravity.

      • Lars Says:

        Do two Not-Even-Wrong-hands make a Woit?

      • Robert A. Wilson Says:

        I think it would be fair to say that: “Two not-even-wrongs make a Woit.”

      • Robert A. Wilson Says:

        But do two Woits make a not even wrong?

      • Lars Says:

        If one Woit makes a NEW
        Then surely so would two
        It’s just a basic fact
        That follows from the math

  12. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    With one right hand and two left hands,
    The Standard Model is chiral.
    Why that is, nobody understands,
    But the video has really gone viral.

  13. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    They’ve got GUTs,
    They’ve gone nuts,
    They don’t know
    My little TOE.

  14. Colin Says:

    Just wanted to add the 42nd comment since as we know that is the answer to Life, the Universe and Everything.

  15. Lars Says:

    One GUT to rule them all, One GUT to fuse them, One GUT to fool them all and hopelessly confuse them

  16. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    If I may try to return to being serious for a moment, the mathematical structure of the normal subgroup of order 27 in the finite version of SU(3) is very tightly constrained, and has profound consequences for the “generation” (or flavour) symmetry of the fundamental fermions. There is no universal generation symmetry, as indeed is well-known, since experiments with the weak interaction have shown that lepton generations and quark generations behave differently. Therefore it is necessary to treat electron generations and neutrino generations as independent concepts.

    There is one symmetry of order 3 that changes the neutrino generation without changing the electron generation, and there is another symmetry of order 3 that changes the electron generation without changing the neutrino generation. There is therefore another symmetry of order 3 that changes the neutrino and electron generations “in synch”, and there is another symmetry of order 3 that changes the neutrino and electron generations “out of synch”.

    So what does all this mean? One thing it certainly means is that we haven’t got a snowball’s chance in Hell of predicting which generation a neutrino belongs to. Which is confirmed by experiment (neutrino oscillations), so that is one successful prediction of the model.

    Another thing it means is that the “colours” of quarks, which can be taken as the three coordinates of the 3-dimensional representation of SU(3), because this is the whole point of using SU(3) in QCD, are *mathematically* the same thing as the “generations” of neutrinos.

    Now hang on a cotton-picking moment. Are you telling me that neutrinos have colours and not generations? No, you are not telling me that, I am telling you that. I told you that ten years ago, but nobody listened. Now I have a mathematical proof: there is no other way in which it is mathematically possible to have a discrete generation symmetry. None whatsoever. If you don’t like it, you can lump it. You can always fudge an experiment. But you can never fudge mathematics.

    • Robert A. Wilson Says:

      So, for one thing, colour confinement is bunk. You can give up trying to “prove” colour confinement – one of the longstanding “unsolved” “problems” of particle physics – because colours are *not* confined. Neutrinos quite happily transport the colours all over the universe with scarcely any let or hindrance. You don’t need to solve this problem, the problem simply does not exist.

    • Robert A. Wilson Says:

      For another thing, neutrino mass is bunk. Since colours are not confined, there are free gluons out there in space, everywhere. A neutrino interacting with a gluon changes its spots – it changes colour/flavour/generation, whatever you’ve decided to call it today. A neutrino does not need a non-zero mass in order to “spontaneously” change its flavour eigenstate, it changes its flavour eigenstate by shaking hands with a passing gluon. In the vicinity of large lumps of matter like the Earth, passing gluons are everywhere, you cannot avoid them. Neutrinos shake hands with them millions of times a day.

    • Robert A. Wilson Says:

      And finally, if you’ve got free gluons, then you’ve got quantum gravity. Gluons have spin 1, but they are sticky, so you can stick them together to make spin 2 gravitons. What more do want? Jam? The Moon?

    • Lars Says:

      You can make fudge with math but you can’t make math with fudge.

      Those who try the latter are called fudgematicians.

  17. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    What’s in a name? That which we call a graviton
    By any other name would be as sticky:
    So Neutrino would, were he not Neutrino call’d,
    Retain that dear perfection which he owes
    Without that title. Neutrino, doff thy name,
    And for that name which is no part of thee,
    Take all the Universe.

    – I take thee at thy word.
    Call me but graviton, and I’ll be new baptized;
    Henceforth I never will be Neutrino.

  18. Robert A. Wilson Says:

    Did you notice what happened to the neutrino champagne I promised you? No mass? Alcohol-free ginger beer! I hope you’re not too disappointed, but it is time for New Year’s Revolutions. Less of the (fortified) spin 2 gravitons, and more of the light spin half neutrinos. Less spin, more gravity.

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    • Robert A. Wilson Says:

      The difficulty in communication is largely caused by physicists’ refusal to be precise in their use of words. I clearly used the word “mix” in the sense of using the 2-dimensional representation of SU(2) to create a “superposition” of electron and neutrino. You deliberately misunderstood it as taking the tensor product of two spin 1/2 representations to create a spin 1 representation for a W boson. If you use the word “mix” for this concept, then you are talking about something completely different from what I was talking about.

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